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emmuzka ([personal profile] emmuzka) wrote2006-11-20 06:00 pm

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After some re-furnishing (My lovely retro lamp! My lovely pseudo Persian rug!), I used the whole weekend by watching television series, old and new.

Slight spoilers ahead!


Dexter
Okay, I don't wonder a bit why there hasn't been a peep about this series in my friends list. Hey, a new series about a crime scene investigator, I thought. Wrong! It was series about a psychopath serial killer who happens to be a crime scene investigator. The whole premises of the series is bizarre, but without an execution bizarre enough to make it interesting. The actors are great, though. There is the guy from Six Feet Under (J. Michael Hall?), and his police boss woman is sooo beautiful, thinks me. She is so familiar from somewhere but I can't figure out the exact series.

Anyway, even as much as they try to make the main character likeable, it's pretty hard to like a psychopath. After the first episode, I wouldn't have kept watching unless I wouldn't have already dropped the five first episodes. Thankfully the series got better after a few episodes. At first it looked like it was going to be a justified-murder-of-the-week with a weak ub plot (think "Jack" plot in Profiler), but now I almost like the series. It's pretty fun when the main guy, being a psychopath without an access to emotions, keeps missing the point when people are talking with finer nuances.

As a material for fan fiction, this series would be impossible. The story telling tells all, without chances for the reader to really make the story her own. Also it would be pretty hard to write slash or any kind of relationshippy stuff for a character who is pathologically unable to feel emotions.


NCIS

Talking about crime scene investigators... I started with the first season of NCIS and frankly, I was disapointed. We have forgettable woman investigator! Stereotypical lab engineer! One-dimensional good-looking guy! And Mark Harmon, who makes boats with his hands! Look, he is quirky, like Grissom! Yeah, sure.


CSI first season

Still keeping it at crime scenes, I started to watch the first season of the original CSI. The are so young and wholesome! It's interesting to watch the first episodes; For example, It's not Greg and Nick who are frist shown talking shit, it's Greg and Grissom. The only irksome thing in the series at the moment is that in the European DVD box, the opening music is changed to some cheap low-grade do-it-yourself tune. At least they show the original opening credits music in television, unlike in House M.D, where even that has been changed.


Heroes

What if there really would be people with super power among us? This is a premise that offers nothing new, but it's made freshly and interesting way. I love this show, but I seriously suggest that these episodes should be viewed as many at once as you possibly can. This series lays heavily on experiencing flow, and watching only one episode at a time? Not going to happen. Almost all the characters are interesting and likable (I like most of the senator dude with the most ridiculous ability to fly) I love even the supporting characters since they are also multi dimensional. And who wouldn't love the Japanise nerd guy who isn't the traditional "let's put glasses on him and call him a nerd"-nerd of Hollywood style.


Hmm, what else? Of course there are Supernatural and Torchwood, but there isn't much to say about them right now. Except, unconditional love, right?

[identity profile] mitzi007.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Any idea if/when Heroes is coming to the Finnish tv? I have heard only good about it.

I love Torchwood, but the fans are starting to piss me off. The whole series is six episodes in and people are already waging shipping wars. I mean, honestly! And if not, they are bitching and wanking how Owen is a rapist, Gwen is stupid, Jack is too dark and how it should be more like Doctor Who and when it's more like Doctor Who it should be less like Doctor Who. Argh. And then they declare how crappy it all is yet there they are next week moaning about same things.
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[identity profile] emmuzka.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Stay away from the fans that bitch and moan, look out for the fans who squee!!

I don't like the idea of fans thinking that they somehow own the series or that the makers are in some kind of debt to the audience. The makers will make the series they want and us fans have the freedom of like or not to like it, but to bitch and moan? that would be acceptable if the series would have hade a long run and then suddenly its quality would have dropped. But after six episodes? the fans can't claim that they would know the characters better than the makers! the yjust pretend they do so they would have the chance to yell out how *they personally would have liked the series*. Well, I would personally want Owen to get kidnapped and whumped and then Jack would come and save him, but only because that won't happen I don't have the right to moan that they would have gotten it wrong!

No news of Heroes going to Finnish tv. It would be a little early for that, anyway. But the police series Numb3rs is going to Finnish television, wit hthe obvious name, Num3rot. :)

[identity profile] sua-lay.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
*giggles at Num3rot*

I see a hole in your logic, young lady! So, there may just be 6 eps of Torchwood out there, but Captain Jack was in like... 5 episodes of Doctor Who! So of course all the fans already know more about him than the makers!

*headdesk*

Also, I'd like a traditional Owen is kidnapped plot! As long as it's not Ianto kidnapped.... He'd just sit in the corner and blubber...

/bitchy

[identity profile] mitzi007.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
So, there may just be 6 eps of Torchwood out there, but Captain Jack was in like... 5 episodes of Doctor Who!

Exacly! And because he is different now than in DW, people see this as proof that writers have screwed up his characterization, never mind that he has apparently spent at least hudread years on Earth*.

But no, they want their flirty Jack back. I bet if he was like in DW they would complain about lack of character development.

Owen and Ianto could be kidnapped together. They could engage in bitchy banter while they wait Jack to rescue them. Not to mention it would be hot ;-)


*It feels funny to use this kind of expression like Jack was some kind of alien when he is a full-blooded homo sapiens like the rest (most?) of us :-)

[identity profile] sua-lay.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I think this needs the epic saga of how Jack got out of the Satellite 5 with the help of the Doctor and had adventures in time and shagged the Doctor like a wild mink.

Everything about Doctor Who is so difficult because the fanbase is insane. Not just mentally insane but insane in numbers and years of being a fan. People grew up watching it, and of course they have opinions about it. The only problem is, they all want to be pleased, so they bitch if there are old baddies and they bitch if there are new baddies. They complain that the show is too hip and the Doctor shouldn't have any chemistry with anyone like *that* and then they complain that the Doctor should finally have someone.

*another headdesk*

It's just weird that people grab a relatively new character like Jack and do the same thing with him. After being killed by the Daleks, who would still just be all happy go lucky?

:D I think Owen would probably strangle Ianto after an hour or two... Or shag him. I'd probably root him whatever he chose.

[identity profile] mitzi007.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I think we are to find out how Jack got to our time in the end of season 3 of Doctor Who.

I haven't followed DW fandom very closely because I still haven't seen season 2 but I have heard they can be very passionate about their subject. Though I wonder if even they can beat Harry Potter fandom in sheer batshiness. I fear that when book seven comes out even most adamant Old School Who fan comes second :-)

[identity profile] sua-lay.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
*mopes*

The thing is, we have to wait almost a year to see the end of Who season 3! I can't wait that long!

*goes to search for some fic*

I'll be the first one to rec season 2. Not just because I am having a totally embarrassing girlcrush on Tennant, but because the story just gets better. Also, they tie up loads of plot things at the end of season 2 and that's always good storywise...

OMG don't even mention Potter fandom here! Not only are most of the slashers insane (yeah yeah, most of usslashers), the wankishness of het and gen fans is awesome as well...

[identity profile] mitzi007.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee, I have a long experinece of Potter fandom, and I'd like to think that as wanky as slashers can get, we are nothing compared to Potter hetters. I mean, hello, Harmonians!

I have asked the season 2 boxset for Christmas. I'm looking forward to it.

[identity profile] sua-lay.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh EW not the Harmonians!

*hides*

I should probably get myself the season 2 boxset as a pressie as well. All those lovely extras... :D

[identity profile] sua-lay.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh good gods! This is exactly why I'm perfectly happy with my small corner of fannish life with just me and the telly and no idiots anywhere around here. :D Well, I like meeting fellow slashers at times, but to go on various boards and discuss the shows with idiots? No thanks.

Heh, of course some of the wanks are actually hilarious, but can't be arsed to browse through all the crap to get to them... They'll end up in fandom wank sooner or later.

[identity profile] mitzi007.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd love to discuss the show with fans and read meta and stuff but finding the good stuff through the crap...

Some people just complain for the sake of complaining. They are not happy until they have found at least something wrong with the thing they are supposed to be fans about. I understand if you try a show and then comment that it wasn't for your tastes and this and this was a bit off, but to go to a Torchwood board or community week after week and declare how the show once again managed to suck balls and declare how the writers suck, actors are terrible, characters all wrong and Small things was too much like Doctor Who (I'm still genuinely baffled by that one, how is it a bad thing if a spin-off resembles the original show). And if somebody disagrees or points out that they interpreted something wrong, they start a wankfest so they don't have to admit thay they might be just a tiny bit wrong about something.

And all this about a show that is still finding its legs. Even Babylon 5 was bad at this point.

[identity profile] sua-lay.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
:P I think everyone would love me to try to find a discussion arena too... Just ask Emmuzka about the last slashmeet where someone (er... yeah, me) couldn't keep her mouth shut about the wonderful Doctor Who and the wonderful David Tennant and the wonderful... You get my drift.

Bitching and whining for the sake of bitching and whining is annoying. You're absolutely right there; hating the show is one thing. Being a jerk is another. And yeah, why shoudn't a spinoff have tie ins to the original? In my humble opinion, Small Things was an excellent episode because they went beyond the new 'must be adult and have lots of controversial sexual innuendo' and actually told a story... where the adult thing came from the drama and the very difficult decision Jack made at the end... And see me rant now...

Damn it! Now I want to sit down for a week or so and watch Babylon 5 again. ;)